I first thought it was over the top when that one israelite was commended (ugh i hate that word now) for stabbing two people through the genitals.......
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How do JWs Not see how barbaric YHWH is? Its what started my awakening.
by BU2B inif one reads genesis from the first chapter through the end with an open mind, it is clear that not only is it not true, but that god is potrayed as a cruel, petty, childish micromanaging tyrant.
if one continues reading the ot this is just further solidified.
how do jws not see the obvious?
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New light!!
by Jon Preston injw vs science and research new light.
university of rhode island anthropologist, along with colleagues from an international team of scientists, has discovered definitive evidence of the environment inhabited by the early ape proconsul on rusinga island, kenya.
the findings provide new insights into understanding and interpreting the connection between habitat preferences and the early diversification of the ape-human lineage.. their research, which was published today in the journalnature communications, demonstrates that proconsul and its primate relative dendropithecus inhabited "a widespread, dense, multistoried, closed canopy" forest.. holly dunsworth, uri assistant professor of anthropology, said that the research team found fossils of a single individual of proconsul, which lived 18 to 20 million years ago, among geological deposits that also contained tree stump casts, calcified roots and fossil leaves.
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Think i like the worldly jew light better....no one dies over it and no one has to absokutely accept it or else.
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New light!!
by Jon Preston injw vs science and research new light.
university of rhode island anthropologist, along with colleagues from an international team of scientists, has discovered definitive evidence of the environment inhabited by the early ape proconsul on rusinga island, kenya.
the findings provide new insights into understanding and interpreting the connection between habitat preferences and the early diversification of the ape-human lineage.. their research, which was published today in the journalnature communications, demonstrates that proconsul and its primate relative dendropithecus inhabited "a widespread, dense, multistoried, closed canopy" forest.. holly dunsworth, uri assistant professor of anthropology, said that the research team found fossils of a single individual of proconsul, which lived 18 to 20 million years ago, among geological deposits that also contained tree stump casts, calcified roots and fossil leaves.
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Jw vs science and research NEW LIgHT
University of Rhode Island anthropologist, along with colleagues from an international team of scientists, has discovered definitive evidence of the environment inhabited by the early ape Proconsul on Rusinga Island, Kenya. The findings provide new insights into understanding and interpreting the connection between habitat preferences and the early diversification of the ape-human lineage.
Their research, which was published today in the journalNature Communications, demonstrates that Proconsul and its primate relative Dendropithecus inhabited "a widespread, dense, multistoried, closed canopy" forest.
Holly Dunsworth, URI assistant professor of anthropology, said that the research team found fossils of a single individual of Proconsul, which lived 18 to 20 million years ago, among geological deposits that also contained tree stump casts, calcified roots and fossil leaves. The discovery underscores the importance of forested environments in the evolution of early apes.
"To have the vegetation of a habitat preserved right along with the fossil primates themselves isn't a regular occurrence in primate paleontology," she said. "It's especially rare to have so many exquisite plant fossils preserved at ancient ape sites."
Rusinga has been known since the 1980s for preserving a fossil ape and other creatures in a hollowed out, fossilized tree trunk. But it wasn't until the research team's discovery of additional tree trunks and fossil primates preserved in the same ancient soil that there was a strong link between the ape and its habitat at the site.
"It's probably the best evidence linking ape to habitat that we could ask for," Dunsworth said. "Combined with analyses of the roots, trunks and even beautifully preserved fossil leaves, it's possible to say that the forest was a closed canopy one, meaning the arboreal animals, like Proconsul, could easily move from tree-to-tree without coming to the ground. This environmental evidence jibes with our behavioral interpretations ofProconsul anatomy--as being adapted for a life of climbing in the trees--and with present-day monkey and ape ecology."
Additional evidence from the excavation site has shown that the landscape was stable for many years while the forest grew.
According to co-author Daniel Peppe of Baylor University, evidence from the forest soil suggests "the precipitation was seasonal with a distinct wet and dry period. During the dry season, there was probably relatively little rainfall," he said. "Additionally, by studying fossil leaves at the site, we were able to estimate that there was about 55 to 100 inches of rainfall a year and the average annual temperature was between 73 and 94 degrees Fahrenheit."
Research on Rusinga Island has been ongoing for more than 80 years and has resulted in the collection of thousands of mammal fossils, including many well-preserved specimens of Proconsul and other primates. Evidence from these fossils indicate that Proconsul probably had a body position somewhat similar to modern monkeys, but that details of its anatomy suggest some more ape-like climbing and clambering abilities. Since 2011, the research team's work at the fossil forest site has resulted in the collection of several additional new primate fossils.
Dunsworth said that her work at the site is continuing.
"We don't know exactly what we're going to find, but without a doubt, if we keep searching, we're going to find knowledge about early ape evolution, which was, of course, a significant chapter in our own history," she said.
Story Source:
The above story is based on materials provided by University of Rhode Island. Note: Materials may be edited for content and length.
Journal Reference:
- Lauren A. Michel, Daniel J. Peppe, James A. Lutz, Steven G. Driese, Holly M. Dunsworth, William E.H. Harcourt-Smith, William H. Horner, Thomas Lehmann, Sheila Nightingale, Kieran P. McNulty. Remnants of an ancient forest provide ecological context for Early Miocene fossil apes. Nature Communications, 2014; 5 DOI: 10.1038/ncomms4236
Notice the difference?
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Helping your Loved one correlate WT mind control by exposing OTHEr groups
by Jon Preston inive been watching "the following" lately and my wife watched a few episodes with me.
she couldnt fathom at first the depth that mind control or "destructive influence" can take you.
so in accordance with hassans "freedom of mind" i have decided that exposing other cults to my wife will help me help her to find correlations to the wt and hopefully lead her to the bite model.
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I think we are going to watch the following together and im going tonexplain the Bite model and how cults control others.....hopedukly the bit about information control and shunning can open a door....shes already on the ropes i think....we keel missing meetings because we just dont feel like going....shes watching vampire shows and "questionable" movies so im going to oush a bit more.....oh and smoking cigarettes....one a day which i wil hopefully be able to change soon. just gotta find the right button.
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Helping your Loved one correlate WT mind control by exposing OTHEr groups
by Jon Preston inive been watching "the following" lately and my wife watched a few episodes with me.
she couldnt fathom at first the depth that mind control or "destructive influence" can take you.
so in accordance with hassans "freedom of mind" i have decided that exposing other cults to my wife will help me help her to find correlations to the wt and hopefully lead her to the bite model.
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Ive been watching "The Following" lately and my wife watched a few episodes with me. She couldnt fathom at first the depth that mind control or "destructive influence" can take you. So in accordance with Hassans "Freedom of Mind" i have decided that exposing other cults to my wife will help me help her to find correlations to the WT and hopefully lead her to the BITE model. I dont know if it will work but atleast if it doesnt i wont be considered an apostate by her. Anyways!
Has anyone attempted this route? Any success or tils for strategy? Right now im going off of FOM by Hassan and my own knowledge of cults.
thanks!
Jon
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Jehovah is the correct uttering of God's name
by mistified ini heard my witness friend that if the name jehovah is the incorrect pronounciation from the hebrew scriptures, then jeremiah is the incorrect way to say jeremiah's name.
i wonder if this is true, because if it is, that would make jws the true religion.
right?.
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Hey what year was that breast plate withb"Ieova" incribed on it from? I remember seeing it in the Bible teach book..
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Information Control and proof of WT tactics
by Jon Preston infrom steve hassan's freedom of mind:.
information control1.
deception:.
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From Steve Hassan's Freedom of Mind:
Information Control
1. Deception:
a. Deliberately withhold information- from WT 06 1/15
" So, then, should we listen to apostates , read their literature, or examine their Web sites on the Internet? If we love God and the truth, we will not do so. We should not allow apostates into our homes or even greet them, for such actions would make us ‘sharers in their wicked works.’ ( 2 John 9-11 ) May we never succumb to the Devil’s wiles by abandoning the Christian “path of truth” to follow false teachers who seek to “introduce ruinous ideologies” and try to ‘exploit us with well-turned phrases.’— 2 Peter 2:1-3 , Byington."
b. Distort information to make it more acceptable- how about distirting WT history and false prophecies so adherents would still accept the org. (feel free to show examples)
c. Systematically lie to the cult member.-- Saying that only "some people" were over zealous about the world coming to an end when, in fact, the Gov Body/FDS put for the information as FACT to be obeyed without question.
2. Minimize or discourage access to non-cult sources of information, including: a. Internet, TV, radio, books, articles, newspapers, magazines, other media
b.Critical information c. Former members d. Keep members busy so they don’t have time to think and investigate e. Control through cell phone with texting, calls, internet tracking
3. Compartmentalize information into Outsider vs. Insider doctrines
a. Ensure that information is not freely accessible
b.Control information at different levels and missions within group
c. Allow only leadership to decide who needs to know what and when - those on the writing committee devoted to research so you dont have to do yourself!!!!
4. Encourage spying on other members
a. Impose a buddy system to monitor and control member--D2D by twos, sheparding calls, "two-witness" rule, hosptality, only associating with members..
b.Report deviant thoughts, feelings and actions to leadership- encouragement to speak to elders about your problems.
c. Ensure that individual behavior is monitored by group- again frequent gatherings, working together, reporting of wrongdoing, etc
5. Extensive use of cult-generated information and propaganda, including: a. Newsletters, magazines, journals, audiotapes, videotapes, YouTube, movies and other media b.Misquoting statements or using them out of context from non-cult sources
--the WT and Awake are the most widely distributed mags on the planet right?
6. Unethical use of confession a. Information about sins used to disrupt and/or dissolve identity boundaries--elders asking whether a fornicator had sex, just masterbated, was it oral, anal, gay, impure thinking/fantasizing......just sayin.
b. Withholding forgiveness or absolution-- How about waiting to be reinstated after repenting?? Hm
c. Manipulation of memory, possible false memories--intimidation tactics and JC's can make all manner of false or distorted memories come to light.
More to come!
Please feel free to share your own experiences
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BILLY THE KID! I'M A CALLIN YOU OUT!!
by DATA-DOG inok pardner...this is it, this is your chance to show how good you really are.. ( cue western music, tumble-weeds and whistling...".
here are the ground rules, should you accept the challenge.. 1) choose one topic.. 2) strictly ahere to the "criteria for truth" presented at the "god's word is truth!
" district convention.
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His avatar is a two eyed crotch monster with sharp teeth....notice the placement of its mouth....just saying.
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Nothing More To Say
by Farkel ini really have nothing much more to say, except to say thank you to all the people who have contributed to me in my threads and all the people whom i battled over the years.
the battles have been most entertaining and enlightening.
i've learned a great deal from them, and i've laughed a great deal from the idiotic attempts of fools to make a coherent argument (think "dubs").. it's been a roller-coaster ride for me over a decade and it has consumed a huge amount of my time.
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Billy the kid i think maybe Anthony Morris III in disguise! Give anymore burnt hot dog Armageddon talks lately, Billy?
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Interesting article on Biblical accuracy
by Jon Preston inappearance of camels in genesis called sign of authors' distance from history.biblical scholars have long been aware many of the stories and accounts in the sacred book were not written by eyewitnesses, and according to new research, further evidence of that historical distance has appeared in the form of a hump-backed camel.. new research using radioactive-carbon dating techniques shows the animals weren't domesticated until hundreds of years after the events documented in the book of genesis.the research was published by erez ben-yosef and lidar sapir-hen, archaeologists from tel aviv university in israel.
they believe camels were not domesticated in the eastern mediterranean until the 10th century b.c.. and yet, the hump-backed creatures are mentioned repeatedly alongside abraham, jacob and isaac, indicating the bible's writers and editors were portraying what they saw in their present as how things looked in the past, says a new york times article by john noble wilford:.
these anachronisms are telling evidence that the bible was written or edited long after the events it narrates and is not always reliable as verifiable history.
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Tiktaalik--- So i wonder if THaTS how kangaroos got to Aussie!!! Lol